KubaParis, Interview
Places and hearts – #4 PEACH, Rotterdam


Peach is a home and exhibition space inhabited by Ghislain Amar, Anna Maria Łuczak and some other people in the south of Rotterdam. Occasionally, Peach turns into a collective and respond to different kind of situations. Peach was funded in February 2015.

Is „home“ the place where you’ve been born?

Ghislain Amar
It’s the place where I was born but also the 2 other cities/areas where I have lived in my life: Provence and Rotterdam. I’d like to do a project connecting these two places one day.

Anna Maria Łuczak
For me it is similar, there is two homes by now, Łódź, in Poland where I come from and Rotterdam, where I moved 12 years ago. It is a long process to make this chosen place a home though, a constant effort and attention, and partly this was a reason to even start Peach, to make it more of a “home” here in Rotterdam. Since 2014, when my brother decided to start Pracownia Portretu, an art space in Łódź, in former textile workers apartment. It enabled me to invite artists from Rotterdam to my home town. This is amazing and special opportunity to make worlds meet.

What do you see and feel when you look out of the window?

It looks pretty boring out there – but it’s sunny today! I should get on my bike and go out instead of sitting in front of my computer.

In the evening you can see the lights of the Port of Rotterdam on one side of the building. On the other side you can see a Vermeer type of scenery, old dutch, old cute.
That is pretty specific and unspecific for Rotterdam in a way, as we are “marketed” as the Port city, but no one ever see the largest ports of Europe on a daily basis, and from the other hand, Rotterdam was almost entirely bombed in the 1940, so you don’t get to see much of the old dutch architecture here.
Depending on which window one is looking from, you can also see the social housing of the south of rotterdam, and this is pretty boring indeed. A good view for working, entirely undistracting.

How would your best friend (partner/visitors, guests) describe your rooms?

I like when they say they like to come here, that it is a nice place to gather and look at stuff.

They mostly say it is “cosy” and “casual” and what makes it special to come here is that we have an informal and friendly atmosphere.

How do you decide what artist you exhibit?

It’s always different depending on the situation. But I would say it is often turns out to be people we know or have met and that we admire the work. The best is when a project comes when discussing with somebody, when it comes naturally. It is how, for example, it happened with Sabrina Chou and her performance/fashion show. For me it’s important to start from our own network rather than picking all the things we like out there. Also, we don’t have much income as a space so there are also things we can’t afford to do even though we would like to do it. But I like it that way, too, it keeps things a little simpler. Ideally we would like to balance the program between people that live in Rotterdam and people that come from other places. The reason for this is that on one hand, it is for us very important to show people that are around us making great things but on the other hand, it’s also nice to bring different people, perhaps not artist, and to have a confrontation of different ideas/communities/ways of doing at Peach.

Sabrina Chou, SHOWSHOW Spring-Summer 2015, fashion show

Your favorite art space?

Cafe Marlena, a Dutch-Surinamese-Chinese snack-bar that is located around the corner from our apartment. They show James Dean, the Twin Towers, a map of the world, an old bar never in use, a tv, a mini-casino, some tableaux with nautical knots, a photo-puzzle landscape and more! The natural history museum in Rotterdam is also very interesting. Also at the moment I enjoy reading artist Jean Michel Wicker’s facebook timeline.

Out of immaterial “spaces” i do like to follow Timur Akhmetov’s instagram, and Bernd Krauß (Der Richer) facebook updates (especially during his travels). It is more people that make spaces that I follow. I am always looking forward to see what Romuald Demidenko is up to.

Why do we need independent art spaces?

I always look at it that way: I’m an artist, I like art, whatever that means, and i like to participate and organise things. So first of all, there is for me a need of doing such things. I don’t really want to praise for independence because it’s not a guarantee of anything: sometimes ‘independent spaces’ create worse rules than institutions. On the other hand, there are many people that do art and it’s quite hard to get to show it sometimes, so hopefully independent spaces can be a little more open and show a different kind of things that wouldn’t be shown into regular artspaces. Institutions have generally big spaces, big budgets and expectations to meet so they won’t take the risk to show somebody whom they can’t be completely sure if they will manage the project. Independent art spaces are a good complement with other types of places and institutions. I would also say that we need open and un-conformists people running both ‘independent’ space and institutions.

I think it is good to make opportunities instead of waiting for opportunities.

What means independence for you?

Less bureaucracy, less money, more simplicity, needs nobody to do something, can’t pay too much, can’t survive with it. We are trying though! Some places like Lifesport in Athens are tying different models to make money. I very much respect them because it’s not about money only, it’s art.

We are all dependent somehow, obviously, on the audience, subsidies, and artists that we invite. And we have hopes to grow, but within this, we can work with whoever we wish. There is more of a friendship economy rather than anything else.

For what Peach stands for?

Peach is a nickname for friends. A little soft, a little rude, a little sexy.

Something you‘ve always wanted to say?

It is going to be tough, but we should not give up!


Peach’s entrance and poster of the exhibition ‘BK Maxxx’ by Bernd Krauß
Bernd Krauß, ‘Emma Stone’, Styrofoam on canvas with bandages, 2017
Bernd Krauß ‘Soft gallery’, wood, metal tubes and modular fixing, 2003/2017
Exhibition view of ‘Filet Americain’ by Ghislain Amar & Anna Maria Łuczak, Peach@Roll on Phenomena, Maastricht, http://www.rollonrollonphenomena.com/


Exhibition view of ‘The LAIF Workshop’ by Riama Nashlig @ Peach, December 2015
‘Climate 2 (democracy: paranoia vs awareness)’, Image from Riama Nashlig’s exhibition The L.A.I.F. Workshop, December 2015, 2014
Peach@W139, Part 0; a temporary relocation of Peach in Amsterdam, 2016, Installation view with works by Sabrina Chou, Daniel Fogarty, Anna Maria Łuczak, Adam Shiu-Yang Shaw. Bar by Ghislain Amar and Hunter Longe, http://www.peachopposite.com/exhibitionslist/peachw139
Dog actor taking a break in the performance by Nina Beier, “Tragedy” at Peach@ W139, Part2, 2016
The weavings, tapestries and loom of craftsman Sytze Roos and the Ambachtelijke Weverij (Weaving Club) are accompanied by the intermittent presence of Nina Beier’s work ‘Tragedy’. Peach@ W139, Part 2, 2016
NEW BRETAGNE/BELLE AIR @ PEACH. A two-day frame-making workshop with our friends from Essen and an exhibition at Peach, 2016


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