Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth

To want the world in a glass hat.

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Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes and Dominique Hurth, To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Berlin 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes, the world in a glass hat, in collaboration with Diego Flórez, 4 channel sound installation, 33 min., looped, 2024, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes, the world in a glass hat, in collaboration with Diego Flórez, 4 channel sound installation, 33 min., looped, 2024, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes, the world in a glass hat, in collaboration with Diego Flórez, 4 channel sound installation, 33 min., looped, 2024, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Bethan Hughes, the world in a glass hat, in collaboration with Diego Flórez, 4 channel sound installation, 33 min., looped, 2024, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, Accurate to Standards, Well-proportioned, Finely structured, Digital print on fabric, 1931x205cm (detail), 2021, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, Accurate to Standards, Well-proportioned, Finely structured, Digital print on fabric, 1931x205cm (detail), 2021, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, Accurate to Standards, Well-proportioned, Finely structured, Digital print on fabric, 1931x205cm (detail), 2021, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, Accurate to Standards, Well-proportioned, Finely structured, Digital print on fabric, 1931x205cm (detail), 2021, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, 2024, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
Dominique Hurth, soundless voices, bitten tongues, haptic hands, Blown glass, ceramics, glass, acrylic glass, acoustic foam, iron, 2019, exhibition view To want the world in a glass hat. at Neun Kelche, Copyright Dorothea Dittrich, VG Bildkunst 2024.
NEW YEAR ON DARTMOOR This is newness: every little tawdry Obstacle glass-wrapped and peculiar, Glinting and clinking in a saint's falsetto. Only you Don't know what to make of the sudden slippiness, The blind, white, awful, inaccessible slant. There's no getting up it by the words you know. No getting up by elephant or wheel or shoe. We have only come to look. You are too new To want the world in a glass hat. —Sylvia Plath DISPLAY_ The spark for this project to take shape —and the convergence of your works— stemmed from Sylvia Plath’s poem New Year on Dartmoor, written between 1961 and 1962 and published in 1981. The exhibition’s title, To want the world in a glass hat., is drawn from the poem’s final line. Bethan, how did this poem emerge in your discussions with Dominique while preparing for the show? BETHAN_By chance! My mum, Janet, sent me the poem several years ago. She’s retired now but she used to be an English literature teacher. She and her brother were the first people in our family to go to university at a time when it was free for those from a low income background. The poem stuck with me. There is something very particular in the way Plath merges lightness and sensuality (newness, glass- wrapped, glinting and clinking) with unbearability (obstacle, tawdry, blind, white, awful, inaccessible). After visiting Neun Kelche one day, it came to mind again. I shared it with Dominique and it immediately resonated as a way to think through the architecture of the space, materiality and voice. I love the idea of the words and the sounds they make being passed on, again and again, transforming as they travel through new materials and bodies while maintaining a rec- ognisable waveform that links them back to the original. For me, Plath creates a visceral landscape through refer- ence to seemingly everyday materials and objects (ele- phant, wheel, boot). Thinking with and through materials about their entangled histories and political meanings, and the often cumbersome process of transforming them into sculptures or installations, is central to my practice. Though her work has since been canonized in (mainly white) feminist circles, Plath was marginalised in her time. The posthumous poetry volume that New Year on Dartmoor appears in is ed- ited by Ted Hughes, the prototypical male genius to whom Plath was married, which represents both an act of display but also filtering of Plath’s word/voice through him. The 9K space is dominated by huge windows which create a vitrine- like effect (“We have only come to look”). The idea to acti- vate these glass surfaces using transducer speakers ar- rived immediately as they allow whole surfaces to become sound bodies. I wanted to play with this idea of dispersal, of filtering, of glass as a source and site for voice. DISPLAY_The themes of newness and renewal are central to the poem as well. I see newness here as an inherent part of transformation, guiding us toward renewal. However, it can also lead us into the unknown, which can feel alienating or destabilizing. At the same time, there are small details— imperfect and sometimes uncomfortable—that contribute to the beauty of change. What are your thoughts, 9K? How can we view the exhibition through this lens? NEUN KELCHE_ This exhibition marks a turning point for us. For the first time, we are cooperating with another pro- ject space and bringing together two female artists by curating their work in relation to each other. Project spaces are currently in great danger. How much newness can we still generate when we are running out of resources due to recent cuts and gradually losing the strength to fight under the current circumstances? The exhibition takes place against the backdrop of a culturally and politi- cally decisive turning point in Berlin’s yearly cycle—by 2025, we won’t even know whether and how we can con- tinue to exist as a space. Sylvia Plath also wrote about a New Year’s transition. It feels as if a giant bell jar has been placed over Berlin, causing time in the cultural scene to stand still, as we still don’t fully understand the impact of this year’s political decisions. This makes it all the more im- portant for us to connect with others in the cultural field and pool our energies. DISPLAY_Dominique, in your work soundless voices, bit- ten tongues, haptic hands (2019), you use glass both as a material and a thematic element. Could you share more about this piece? What research informed its develop- ment, and how did you approach the fabrication process? DOMINIQUE_This work developed after an invitation by Fe- lix Sattler of the Tieranatomisches Theatre (Berlin, on the Charité Campus) back in 2018 and took as a starting-point the biographies of some objects held at the collection of historical physical instruments of the Humboldt University in Berlin-Adlershof, and scientific objects between the 19th and 20th centuries at large. I focused especially on objects held in hands, or brought to the mouth (such as the pipette), used by women, and intertwined them directly with their fields of usage and with the biographies of three women who have often been ignored or forgotten in official histori- ography (Lise Meither, Elsa Neumann, Lydia Rabinowitsch- Kempner). Those three scientists stood for groundbreaking research into physics and microbiology. The historical ob- jects became tools to speak about muteness and silenced voices. The sculptures here are augmented replicas of some instruments for physics preserved behind the glass of the vitrine, or the glass of the negative that I observed in sci- entific archives (Humboldt-Universität, Archives of the Max Planck Society in Berlin-Dahlem and the Churchill Archives Centre in Cambridge). The objects thus became sculpturally transformed in their materiality of the blown-glass. The use of glass here is clearly referencing the material the objects were originally made of and thus questioning the infor- mation the material itself contains within. Furthermore, I was interested in the form-shaping of the process-making with blown glass: air gets blown into the raw material in order to give it a form, it breathes through the material, it captures the raw material and finds its shape in a meticulous schedule of liquefaction. It is air that is sealed in them, and in the per- formative part of the work, it is air (through language) that activates the objects anew. DISPLAY_Architectures are often shaped by the standards and norms dictated by urban planning over time, many of which are imbued with underlying ideologies. A striking ex- ample is the book Architect’s Data (Bauentwurfslehre, pub- lished first 1936), which served as a key reference for build- ing typologies and spatial requirements for architecture in 20th-century Germany and worldwide. It nourished the re- search for your piece Accurate to Standards, Well-propor- tioned, Finely structured (2021), Dominique. Could you share how you approached the composition of this work? What considerations guided your choices, particularly the choice of fabric? DOMINIQUE_This installation was originally developed site- specifically for a solo exhibition in a small kiosk in the city of Gießen that is used now as an art institution. I became ob- sessed with the facade of the building and the date of the building’s construction, 1937, a year after the publication of Ernst Neufert's Bauentwurfslehre (a handbook on architec- ture that is still regarded internationally as a standard work). The 20 metre long drawing on fabric is a composition of brick-building works as defined by Neufert in the guide of 1936. I wanted to question the problematic history of stand- ardisation and rationalisation of architectural buildings (that Neufert coined), and sharpen the eye for details that don't quite fit when it comes to architecture, as well as highlight the amnesia of architectural history when it comes to its in- tertwinement with national-socialist and fascist ideologies and their continuities after 1945. The fabric was chosen to “dress” the interior of the building, in the most classical sense of interior design, while the hand-drawing becomes fluid and imprecise when imposed on the soft material of the fabric. The softness of the material was responding to the rigidity of the architecture, it was also counteracting the strict male-like rigidity of the norm. The line deviates, the folds inform the architectural guide, the norm expels – it be- comes a score to question what is not fitting in the norm, what deviates from the expected form. NEUN KELCHE_Marie, both our project spaces have a large window front as a key part of their architecture. There is a sort of permeability that comes with this. Now that Dis- play is a nomadic initiative, how did you feel about conceiv- ing this exhibition for another physical project space in Berlin and how do you connect the notion and vision of Display to Neun Kelche? DISPLAY_When I started Display at the end of 2015, the name arose from the idea of considering the entire space as an exhibition display. The large glass window made it possible for processes and transformations to be visible— putting them on display. Including this window case was also a way to ensure accessibility and allow a perspective from outside. Display evolved as a project space in this 30m2 former commercial premise at Mansteinstr. 16 until 2020. I've been interested in ways of thinking about space, architecture and spatiality—particularly through the en- counters of different bodies within a shared environment. So of course, this specific site informed my curatorial practice. Its many architectural features—two steps “cut- ting” through the space, a corner, the large window, and others—, it was also very playful. Now without a fixed loca- tion, I like to bring these thoughts through the different col- laborations and the various places. At Neun Kelche, I think we also share this way of working with the architectural space as an active agent with which to compose and ne- gotiate. DISPLAY_Your sound piece Bethan fills the space and in- vites visitors to activate their listening skills in the exhibi- tion too. What do we hear? How did you process and how did you compose your piece? BETHAN_The basis for the piece is a 30 minute long audio recording that I made from inside my apartment on New Year’s Eve in 2022. I live in a place called the “High-Deck- Siedlung” which is at the end of Sonnenallee in Neukölln. It is a place that is often portrayed in the popular press as a problem area, in articles where the phrase ‘Sozialer Brenn- punkt’ communicates a thinly veiled racism. The architec- ture is characterised by long, low concrete Plattenbau. Like an alarm clock that rings just once a year, Berlin collectively erupts on Sylvester; for three years in a row during the pan- demic, I experienced the celebrations from inside my apart- ment on the High-Deck. The multilayered sounds of explod- ing, fizzing, and whirling fireworks arrive from every direc- tion, bounce off the angular concrete structures, and are fil- tered through the thick walls and glass windows of the apartment. I worked with Diego Flórez, a filmmaker and artist who is a longtime collaborator, to ‘glassify’ these recordings. We worked on maintaining the complexity of the audio but tried to transform it into something sharper, more fragile and ambiguous. In addition, I used a contact microphone to record lots of moments of manipulating glass: scraping, slid- ing, scoring, splashing, stroking. I also experimented with smashing but the sounds were far less interesting than those which balanced on the edge of breaking. Inspired by Dominique’s Accurate to Standards piece, which can be read as a graphic musical score in seven parts, I decided to divide the audio into seven phases. Embedded within one of the display cases, a perpetually ticking yet faulty metro- nome that misses and doubles beats is the fourth channel. DISPLAY_We began our collaboration by discussing ar- chives—particularly artists' archives—the challenges of preserving certain materials like textile works, and the role of storage systems as an integral part of an artist's practice. We also explored the idea of "actualizing" or recontextualiz- ing works, especially by presenting them in their stored state. Building on this, we were drawn to the idea of show- casing existing works. NEUN KELCHE_Neun Kelche used to be the storage of a su- permarket, Kaiser’s. Now, contemporary art is exhibited here, but we often ask ourselves, what dimensions of art production can be shown in a project space. We often ask artists to show existing works, but often they want to create something new when given the chance to produce some- thing for such a big space. For this exhibition we talked a lot about the art making process itself and in the end, we are showing two already existing works by Dominique Hurth in a new light, directly taken out of the storage and one new pro- duction by Bethan Hughes. The exhibition showcases two existing works of yours Dominique and these pieces are presented out of their cases. What does it mean to you to show works in this new context? How do they acquire new meanings when pro- posed as archival pieces and are in correspondence with Bethan's work? DOMINIQUE_Both works were developed in direct re- sponse to the histories of the exhibition spaces the works were meant to be first shown in, and both works are only shown here partially: each work has more components to it, so we are only looking at “partially unveiled” compo- nents of two larger installations. While the glass and ce- ramic sculptures have been shown in other exhibition spaces (as a whole), the fabric drawing has not been shown yet in another exhibition context, which is to me quite unu- sual. While I often respond to the history or the architec- ture of the exhibition space, I am really used to having my works being shown again in other exhibition contexts. I love seeing the works being shown in dialogue with other pieces, which is also a privilege of working within the con- text of curated exhibitions, and then there are those mo- ments of “care” happening in between: packing, unpack- ing, repacking the works for instance. Some works are not coming back to the studio or the storage in between but simply have their life by themselves. They carry their exhi- bition history with them. The moment of the exhibition is a crucial moment for my practice: to me the artworks do not exist until the moment they are exhibited. While I can rely on an inventory of art- works following almost two decades of practice, my prac- tice is pretty much connected to the infrastructures of storing and archiving my own practice. This exhibition pretty much pauses on that moment of “partially unveil- ing”, that thin in-between moment: between the transport crate and the moment of the exhibiting, holding onto the moment before the work actually becomes. In this exhibi- tion, one also pauses on other aspects such as the mate- riality of the glass objects, the tension between materials, the fragility of unpacking and placing, the hierarchies be- tween works with one work becoming the background for another, extracting them for a bit from the historical con- text they were developed for and looking at them for a sec- ond for what they are: language and form, containing many other stories of exhibitions within their materiality. Beth’s sound piece functions then almost like an ally agent, en- hancing the factor of time inherent to the sound piece and perhaps even recalling the notion of time as an inherent component of an artwork that is about to shift into some- thing else, a document perhaps.* *You can read a longer version of this conversation online via https://display-berlin.com and www.neunkelche.de
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